Here's Far Cry 2 technical director Dominic Guay talking about the importance of "procedural content generation" for massive online games -- basically, using software to create worlds that had previously been hand-built by artists. It makes a lot of sense, but what fascinates me is the narrative possibilities for fiction about games: these procedural systems have or will shortly attain a level of complexity that makes it impossible to predict their outcomes. It's the Halting Problem -- worlds where software off the rails could generate impossible situations, upside-down worlds, treasure heaps, cowardly monsters and brave grass. I'm thinking especially of abandonware worlds where only a few players remain and the gamemasters have stopped paying close attention. What odd maps might be drawn as the die-hards explore the outermost reaches of these worlds?

"Another big benefit [of procedural content creation] is that you end up being able to do stuff you simply couldn't do otherwise," Guay continued. "It opens up innovation fields. If you're creating things through code, you have a deeper understanding of what you're doing, and you can bake in some limitations."

"Our artists needed to be able to build not a random tree, but a type of tree," he said by way of example. "It's actually much closer to building a particle system than building traditional art assets. Artists play with parameters more than they play with vertices."

Creating those tools allowed artists to define trees based on characteristics gleaned from extensive photo reference, more than to create a number of discrete tree variants based on those references...

When a team member made a seemingly minor after-hours change to the ecosystem, it ended up increasing the asset density of the game world by 25 percent -- resulting in more than a few headaches.

"If I'm tweaking a jungle procedurally, maybe I'll just tweak it in my test map," Guay said. "But when I integrate it into the game, somewhere in the 50 square kilometer game world, maybe in just three small areas, it might cause problems, and we won't find those problems until QA uncovers them."

MIGS: Far Cry 2's Guay On The Importance Of Procedural Content (via /.)

Wagner James Au sez, "Not only are [Obama's FCC Transition Team leaders] Kevin Werbach and Susan Crawford great Net Neutrality advocates, they're also into online games/virtual worlds-- Werbach belongs to not one but *two* WoW guilds, and Crawford calls herself a "big fan" of Second Life. Agreeing with his guildmaster Joi Ito, Werbach's also a big supporter of WoW as a model for the future of work and software development."

“What [Warcraft] does,” he continued in that post, “is provide an incentive for people to develop new software and ideas for collaborative production. Many of those ideas will translate to other group activities, including those within the business world. I think MMOGs will be, at a minimum, a significant testbed for these new technologies, because users see a direct benefit and are willing to experiment with new things.”

Unsurprisingly, this perspective extends to virtual worlds like Second Life, which has been an important component in Werbach’s Supernova technology conference. On her own blog, Professor Crawford, a board member at ICANN, also counts herself “a huge fan of Second Life” for the way it lets users retain IP rights to their content (though she confesses to difficulty when it comes to moving her SL avatar around.)

Obama’s FCC Transition Team Co-chair a WoW Player

See also: Net Neutrality fighters to head Obama's FCC transition team

Hurrah! This Friday marks the return of The IT Crowd, my favorite sitcom/nerd media EVAR, back for a triumphant third season!

Although Reynholm jumped out of a high window in the last series, his playboy son Douglas (Matt Berry) shows every sign of carrying on the family name (plundering the pension fund, putting flakes of gold in the drinking water, etc) and more or less takes over tonight's very funny opening episode. That leaves our IT-department trio of geeky Moss, lazy Roy and uptight Jen slightly overshadowed. But the sweet scene where Moss and Roy try some role-play to help Moss deal with park bullies just about makes up for it.

The IT Crowd (Thanks, Alan!)

LIFE and Google have teamed up to put 10,000,000 historic images online -- about 20 percent of the images are live now. The Disneyland images are great -- here's the old Submarine Ride. LIFE photo archive hosted by Google (Thanks, Neil and Slashdot!)

This week, Boing Boing tv is debuting regular product reviews produced with Joel and the crew, and we'll blog 'em here on Gadgets first. What better way to kick the series off than a lulz-filled analysis of the Lippi Selk Bag, a sleeping bag with arms and legs that makes our Joel look like a bespectacled Gumby? The funky-chunky "sleepwear system" ranges in price from $169 to $399. I imagine they'd really come in handy at one of those outdoor all-nighter raves, unless you get lucky -- interpersonal intra-bag intercourse might be logistically difficult in these.

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Tell Joel what you think of his Gumby impersonation in the Boing Boing Gadgets comment thread for this video. And here is a direct MP4 link, if you prefer a downloadable video to the Flash embed above.

I'm doing my guestblogging assignment this week while in Banff National Park in Alberta, Canada. I came here to give a talk about Make and makers at Digitel (Digital Game and Intelligent Toy Enhanced Learning), by invitation of Mike Eisenberg of University of Colorado at Boulder's Craft Technology Lab. After my talk, my wife and I went for a hike to see some of the magnificent mountains that surround Banff. The first real snow of the season came last Sunday. I took this photo below of Mount Rundle with the Bow River making a loop in the Banff valley. The town is out of the picture to the right.

Tonight I've bought a book about the geology of Banff. Mount Rundle is on the cover. It's called How Old is that Mountain? by Chris Yorath. I want to learn more about this part of the Canadian Rockies and what they're made of.

Following our successful lift off, today on Offworld we saw the community start to extend the life of 2D Boy's brilliant indie puzzler World of Goo, and saw reason to be hopeful for Microsoft's upcoming Xbox 360 karaoke game Lips, despite entering a post-Rock Band, post-SingStar environment.

We also heard good news about continued development on Citizen Siege, the darkly political game from the developers of the Oddworld series, nearly convinced David to take a Holiday In Cambodia, and found that one of the next games that could very well suck up the majority of our time could come from... Neopets?

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ACCRC is in desperate straits. The Bay Area electronics recycler is going through tough times with an emergency re-org and a lack of funds to pay taxes and healthcare for its employees. Its own internal problems are compounded by a sudden drop in the price of scrap metal. ACCRC has been a friend to Make and Maker Faire, and generally anyone in the Bay Area who uses computers and electronics and wants to make sure they are recycled properly.

Alex Handy, a member of a small team stepping up to see what they can do to help, told me that "the business has always been profitable because the recovery of the metals in circuit boards, combined with the California SB-20 bounty on monitors, have always been lucrative. When copper and other scrap metal prices were through the roof two years ago, things were great. We could make enough money off of electronic recycling to fill in the gap left after monitor recycling. But copper, like oil and every other commodity of late, has bottomed out. It's not as scarce as people were anticipating because many factories worldwide aren't ordering more, or as much, thanks to the economic slow-down."

ACCRC has cut-back staff and sold off items in its inventory that still had some value. Still, ACCRC needs to raise money, and there's a Donate button on the ACCRC website. The team is trying to keep the organization afloat and survive long enough for scrap market to recover and put the organization back together. Please help if you can.

The release of the Dead Kennedys pack for Rock Band may lead to my first videogame console purchase since the Atari 5200. Dead Kennedys for Rock Band (Boing Boing Offworld)

Cool videos using a video camera mounted to a Coke bottle. Video mounted to Coke bottle

The best science fiction short video ever, only it's real. (Via Mt. Holly Mayor's Office)

BB pal Vann Hall turned me on to Europa Film Treasures, featuring, as he says, "tons of historical footage in a well-annotated website. (And downloadable with the right tools!) Seen above, a still from Jön az öcsém (1919), directed by Michael Curtiz of Casablanca fame; and John MacFadyen (1970), a Scottish animation featuring credits painted right on the film stock. And here are the most popular films on the site right now:

1. The Apple-Knockers and the Coke (1948)
2. Das Sandbad (1906)
3. Farfale (1907)
4. Das eitle Stubenmädchen (1908)
5. Gordon Highlanders (1899)

Europa Film Treasures

In 2004, ex-con Charles Manning, 61, was infected in prison by a flesh-eating bacteria that ate away at his groin. Prison doctors first thought he was just having an allergic reaction. He sued and the Washington Department of Corrections settled by giving him $300,000. From the Associated Press:

By the time he was taken to a hospital, Manning had an internal abscess that required doctors to remove several pounds of flesh from his pelvic region.

Surgeons made a replacement penis with skin from his thigh.

"Wash. prisons, inmate settle disfigured groin case" (Thanks, Scott Compton!)

I haven't played Spore yet, but I find this image of appendages in the latest Spore patch to be just the kind of Wunderkammer-esque collection that I appreciate. Brandon Boyer has more over at our new Boing Boing Offworld games blog! "EA tosses new parts into Spore patch"

I get lots of books sent to me to review. I can't read them all, even though many of them look promising. Here are a few I plan to read, eventually. I hope.

Show Me How: 500 Things You Should Know Instructions for Life From the Everyday to the Exotic

My 5-year-old daughter and I quickly paged through this book filled with cartoon-like project ideas and made a lost of things to do: grow an avocado tree from a seed, invent clay oddities, assemble a super slingshot, tell time with a poato clock, blow a humongous bubble, make a delicious s'more, and about 20 other things.

The Mental Floss History of the World: An Irreverent Romp through Civilization's Best Bits

From the publishers of mental_floss, this book contains entertaining snippets and stories in the vein of one of my favorite books, The People's Almanac. Here's an excerpt, about the Amazon:

When it’s not making people crazy, the Amazon seems to inspire bizarre, larger-than-life schemes. In 1967, American shipping magnate and billionaire Daniel Ludwig bought a larger-than-Connecticut sized chunk of the Amazon to create a gigantic industrial and agricultural complex called the Jari Project. It didn’t work out. All the construction led to massive soil erosion, screwing up the “agricultural” part of his plan. After sinking $1 billion into the project (back when $1 billion really meant something) Ludwig called it quits in 1982. It was eventually put up for sale for $1--a great deal, if you’re willing to assume $354 million in debt. The bright side: For anyone with a dollar and a dream, it’s your lucky day: the Jari Project is still for sale!

Falling off the Edge: Travels Through the Dark Heart of Globalization Time correspondent Alex Perry traveled around the world to see the effects of globalization "on the ground, instead of the executive suite."

Perry takes readers to Shenzen, China's boom city where sweatshops pay under-age workers less than $4 a day; and to Bombay, where the gap between rich and poor means million-dollar apartments overlook million-people slums. He shares a beer with Southeast Asian pirates who prey on the world's busiest shipping artery. And he puts us in the middle of a firefight between American Special Forces and the Taliban.

He shows that for every winner in our brave new world, there are tens of thousands of losers. And be they Chinese army veterans, Indian Maoist rebels or the Somali branch of al Qaeda, they are very, very angry.

Magic Bus: On the Hippie Trail From Istanbul to India Travel writer Rory MacLean revisits the old South Asian "hippie trail."

In the 1960s and 1970s, hundreds of thousands of young westerners in search of enlightenment blazed the “hippie trail” that ran through Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, and Nepal. Forty years later, Rory MacLean revisits the trail, where he encounters the tie-dyed veterans who never made it home, meets locals reaping the rewards and regrets of westernization, and crashes up against Taliban fighters and Islamic extremism, which has turned the hippie trail into a path of dust and danger.

The Macrophenomenal Pro Basketball Almanac: Styles, Stats, and Stars in Today's Game

An idiosyncratic, highly personal take on professional basketball. The illustrations and overall design are stunning. I don't even like pro sports, but I am planning to read this. Check out these sample pages (click for big).

Wham-O Super-Book: Celebrating 60 Years Inside the Fun Factory

When Carla, David, Gareth, and I edited The Happy Mutant Handbook in 1995, Carla wrote a chapter about the world's greatest toy company, Wham-O! Besides the Hula Hoop, Super Elastic Bubble Plastic, the Super Ball, Slip-n-Slide, and the Air Blaster, Wham-O made a bunch of charmingly weird but less-well-known toys, such as Cute Scoot, Sun Vu, Fun Farm, Instant Fish, Fun-Gun, and many more. This book, by Tim Walsh, presents the history of Wham-O along with lots of color illustrations from the Wham-O archives. It's already one of my treasured keepsakes.

Wham-O's irresistible toys practically define childhood for an entire generation. The Frisbee Hula Hoop SuperBall Slip 'N Slide Silly String and Hacky Sack are all cherished companions that brought kids together and still enjoy an enduring popularity today. Super-Book ("the most fantastic book ever created by science") showcases these amazing toys and a wide array of entertaining and downright odd playthings dreamed up by a company started by two childhood friends. Released in time for the 60th anniversary of Wham-O and featuring an engaging history of each plaything colorful vintage packaging and ads as well as photographs of the toys this boisterous book is sure to inspire nostalgia and a trip to the nearest park Frisbee in hand.

That's just a small sample from my book stack. I'll post more soon!

Unlike Sad Guys On Trading Floors, this is no laughing matter. A trader on the floor of Sao Paulo's Bovespa stock exchange shot himself in the chest. According to the Associated Press, Paulo Sergio Silva's condition is not known. From the AP:

It was not clear if he shot himself due to the recent sharp losses in Brazilian stocks or for other reasons.

Trading was halted for a few minutes after the shot was fired on Monday.

"Trader shoots himself on stock exchange floor"

Transmedia artist Guy Overfelt created this massive inflatable "smoke" installation for the Cantocore Export Guangzhou show in China a couple months ago. It follows the thread of Overfelt's previous Inflatable Trans-AM. From the description of the piece, titled "Untitled" (Up in Smoke):

This time the inflatable Smoke is fabricated in Guangzhou, factory direct. Beyond Paul McCarthy-like reductive shapes coming off the assembly line or the Chinese Olympic team leaving the others’ in the dust, the simple shape raises questions about what these factories are pumping out in Guangzhou.

Guy Overfelt's inflatable smoke (Thanks, Heather Sparks!)

I enjoyed the "carnie girls" collection of vintage paperback covers from the Good Girl Art website. Shown here are covers to two (sadly out-of-print) carnival-themed books I highly recommend: Madball, by Fredric Brown, and Nightmare Alley, by William Lindsay Gresham. (Update: Nightmare Alley is available in the anthology Crime Novels: American Noir of the 1930s and 40s.)

Good Girl Art, usually shortened to GGA, is the term that describes certain types of Vintage Art, and specifically Paperback Cover Art. Richard Lupoff in his The Great American Paperback defines it as "A cover illustration depicting an attractive young woman, usually in skimpy or form-fitting clothing, and designed for (mild erotic interest). The term does not apply to the morality of the 'good girl', who is often a gun moll, tough cookie, or wicked temptress." The GGA designation seems to have originated with comic books and is usually applied to attractive sexy young women who are either in peril or are perpetrating the peril like my favorite gun moll on the right. So it is often politically incorrect but can also be empowering when at the right end of a gun.

Good Girl Art Paperbacks (Via Shane Glines)

In this week's Boing Boing TV update, we discuss what's ahead with the launch of BOING BOING: OFFWORLD, and we speak with the YES MEN about their EPIC STUNT last week in which they printed and distributed lots and lots of copies of a New York Times fantasy-edition, with the headline IRAQ WAR ENDS. Mark blogged about this last week, with video.

We speak to three of the guys who made this event possible over a multi-channel iChat session that gets kind of melty sometimes. They are: Steve Lambert from the ANTI ADVERTISING AGENCY, Andy Bichlbaum from the YES MEN, and Scott Beibin from THE LOST FILM FEST. Some of those names might be aliases, who knows, caveat lector.

They say they received a cease and desist over email from HSBC over a parody HSBC ad that appears in both the print and online editions of their Faux NYT, but oddly, the C&D (they showed us a copy) is addressed to the REAL New York Times. We have not yet been able to confirm the lawyergram's validity with HSBC, but the email headers suggest it's legit.

In this Boing Boing TV update, you will hear music from Q-Burns Abstract Message and Eighth Dimension Records, and you'll hear me talk about BBtv's new programming changes. (Special thanks to Eddie Codel, Sean Bonner, and Scott Beale, who covered the Yes Men item early on).

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Link to Boing Boing tv blog post with subscription instructions, and here is a direct link to an MP4 file.

Fun Flickr sets showing the making of a cute sculpture called The Jumping Brain.

The Jumping Brain is a limited edition toy created by artist Emilio Garcia that is a detailed plastic model of the brain, with, erm... webbed feat.

It comes in traditional lab demo gray, as well as red, green and blue and even has its own MySpace page.

The Jumping Brain (Via Mind Hacks)

Guy attaches a drill to a cheap stroller and locks its front wheels to make it go around in circles until either the batteries run out or the little brat falls asleep. Genius.

Automatic baby walker

South Attleboro, MA -- home of the brightest, most sympathetic city employees in the whole town!

South Attleboro resident Eileen Wilbur's bill from the city is for one penny.

The city sent Wilbur a letter dated Nov. 10 stating that if the 1 cent balance is not paid by Dec. 10, the city will assess a lien of up to $48 on Wilbur's next property tax bill.

"They wasted taxpayer money on the letter," Wilbur said, noting the 42-cent charge for a stamp.

City Collector Debora Marcoccio said the bill was sent out along with more than 2,000 others as the city tries to recoup outstanding balances before resorting to putting liens on property.

A computer automatically printed the letters for any account with a balance remaining, and they were not reviewed by staff before being sent out, Marcoccio said.

"It would be fiscally irresponsible for me to have staff weed through the bills and pull out any below a certain amount," Marcoccio said. " And what would that amount be?"

City wants her cent (Via The Agitator)

This curious bronze statue is available on eBay for a BuyItNow price of $249. Remove the devil head and the true phallic nature of the statue becomes clearer. I prefer it with the devil head in place.
"Pure Bronze masculine genital Sculpture Statue Signed" (Thanks, Michael-Anne Rauback!)

Today, we announce some changes over at Boing Boing tv -- the good kind. The show completed its first year of Boingsistence on October 2, 2008 (remember our very first day back in 2007?), and we've spent some time in recent weeks thinking through new things we'd like to explore, and how to stay nimble and consistently fresh during a time when many online video shows are, to be frank, having a rather hard time of things.

Here's what we're doing.

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Each MONDAY, we'll post a brief update of goings-on around the mothership blog, hosted by me, including iChat Video or Skype interviews with folks we've blogged about recently. Kind of a fast news update, and a way for us to keep you in the loop on things that Cory, Mark, Pesco and I have posted here on Boing Boing that have taken on a life of their own. We're posting the first one of these momentarily (yeah, I know it's Tuesday, but we're kicking things off today.) UPDATE: Here's our first Boing Boing tv Weekly Update episode!

TUESDAY, expect a Boing Boing Gadgets item. We're producing a bunch of short electronics/tech stuff reviews from Joel Johnson, and we hope to include BB Gadgets co-editors John Brownlee and Rob Beschizza, soon, too.

WEDNESDAYS, we'll feature stuff from Brandon Boyer and crew at Boing Boing Offworld, the games blog we launched yesterday. Check out offworld.com for a hint of how this will feel: gaming seen through a wide lens that encompasses the art, culture, and human experience of gaming, not just a buying guide.

THURSDAYS, we'll continue to bring the engaging original programming that we love to produce, and you, our audience, seem to love just as much. We’ll keep bringing you reports from around the world; mini-documentaries about tech and culture topics with me, the other Boingers, and other brilliant people around the world (Kyle Glanville doing coffee treks in Brazil, Joi Ito galavanting around in Tokyo, Sean Bonner hunting monsters, Monochrom herding inebriated Vikings, John Behrens and the Omega Recoil Tesla Coil builders); and all the other brain exploding material we have yet to find!

FRIDAYS? The return of the Unicorn Chaser. This will surprise and delight you. It will be super awesome. You will thank us all weekend long.

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So, that's the plan. And on behalf of my Boing Boing partners, a very special THANKS to everyone who made the first year of Boing Boing tv possible, including, but not limited to, and in no particular order...current crew members and alumni Derek Bledsoe, Rob Bergsma, Keith Carunida, Dana Devonshire, and Wesly Varghese; our jungle-dwelling consigliere and creative consultant Jolon Bankey; our production advisor Matt West of DECA; DECA co-founders Michael Wayne and Chris Kimbell, and the entire staff and management team of DECA, George Ruiz at ICM; our attorney Rob Rader of MSK; the good folks at Creative Commons and the EFF, to Sarah Milstein, and the teams at Castfire and Episodic, our sysadmin Ken Snider ("The Man in the Jeffries Tubes"), and the management and sales superheroes at Federated Media -- John Battelle, Chas Edwards, Bernie Albers, Jason Weisberger, Mugs Buckley, Neil Chase, Jennifer Tamez, James Navin, Josh Mattison, Jackie Mogol, Alison Marino, Jason Ratner, Mac Delaney, Lester Lee, Leona Laurie, Matt Jessell, Sacha Lien, Cindy Murphy, James Gross, Ivan Kanevski, Liam Boylan, Eric Amsden, and Jonathan Schrieber. A very special thanks to the many friends who've contributed talent to the show, including John Hodgman, the MAKE (event and magazine) folks, Johannes and the team at monochrom; Matt and Hiroko, Todd Lappin; Bill Barminski; Syd Garon; Russell Porter; Eddie Codel, Jason McHugh, Charis Tobias, Adam Koford, EBOY, Mister Jalopy, and many others. Thanks to the guys at Virgin America, Apple/iTunes, and YouTube, for help with distribution. And much gratitude to Boing Boing tv's past and present sponsors, including: Intel, Dell, Samsung, Verizon, Microsoft, Crowdfire, Toshiba, BMW, IBM, T Mobile, Amazon, Adobe, SanDisk, and JCPenney. [gasps for breath]. Also, God, and our moms. Thank you and good-boing.

The Wall Street Journal, Friday November 14th, reports on "culture clashes" between the brokers of Merrill Lynch and the bank that bought them, Bank of America. As the article portrays it, the values of Wall Street are coming in conflict with those of Main Street. "Merrill staffers joke that Bank of America employees are recognizable in the elevators by their less expensive attire and American-flag lapel pins."

Merrill Lynch is bullish on snobbery and status. These snobs, wearing more expensive suits, consorted to run their company into the ground. Now they look down on the company that rescued them and the people who work there as not being worthy, not sharing their own high status. It's another sign that failure will not humble Wall Street or cause them to change their ways. It's also a bad sign for Bank of America of the difficulty of getting these dandies to do an honest day's work.

These are the good people we're helping bail out and they look down their noses at the rest of us. It bothers me that we're providing welfare payments to people who fly first-class, stay in five-star hotels, eat in expensive restaurants, watch sports in skyboxes and travel in limos more frequently than rock stars, all the while being impeccably dressed in the classic fashion. It just makes me want to rise up out of my seat in coach, walk to the front of the plane and grab one of them by their silk tie. I want to scream: "Get out here, you bum. I know you're not the one paying for this." I'd half-expect them to defend themselves by saying "Hank Paulson said I could sit here."

The bare truth is that they have lived this lifestyle by taking people's money in return for worthless advice. Their specialty is knowing what's good for themselves, not understanding what's happening in the market. Read Michael Lewis's year-old article in Portfolio: The Evolution of an Investor about a broker named Blaine Lourd who finally understands the disservice he performs.

The problem was the entire edifice of modern Wall Street, in which some people —- brokers, analysts, mutual fund managers, hedge fund managers -— presented themselves as experts and were paid fantastic sums of money for their expertise. But essentially, Ellis argued, there was no such thing as financial expertise. "I read this book," Blaine says, "and I thought, My whole life is a lie, and everyone around me is facilitating this lie."

If you see a broker dressing like one from Merrill Lynch, tell him to loosen his tie, roll up his sleeves a little and lose the Italian-made loafers. Tell him times have changed and he won't be dressing anymore like he's made of money.

I saw a nostalgic photo in the bathroom of a NY City restaurant recently, a picture of the beach at Coney Island and the ocean was absolutely filled with people from where the water met the shore to as far out as people could stand. It was such a great picture that could be interpreted two different ways: what an awful thing to go to a crowded beach OR what an amazing time you'd have in the middle of all those people enjoying the day of the beach. Think of its opposite -- the island beach with white sand and nothing but you and nature, the kind of photos you find in "Travel and Leisure" magazine. It's another setting that could be seen and experienced two different ways -- I've found paradise because I can lie on this beautiful beach or, an hour later, I'm bored because there's nobody here and nothing to do. One test is to ask yourself what you'd have done as a kid. The kid has to prefer the crowded beach with lots going on.

Gabe Delahaye and Max Silvestri have produced another episode of their manly man beauty tips for Details.com. These are delightfully creepy, and some of the guys in the studio where we produce Boing Boing tv have found them most useful. Are you in Brooklyn Thursday night? Max Silvestri has a message for you:

And if you aren't busy Thursday night, come out for an extra-special Big Terrific with me and Gabe & Jenny. It's our last show until December, because believe it or not we won't be making jokes on the night of Thanksgiving. We'll be busy seeing who can eat the most oyster stuffing without passing out. Spoiler alert: it's me. Also joining us for this pre-holiday celebration: * LEO ALLEN (two Comedy Central specials, SNL) * KURT & KRISTEN (Flight of the Conchords, Comedy Central special) * JON FRIEDMAN (The Rejection Show) * MIKE O'CONNELL (in from LA; Jimmy Kimmel Live, YouTube sensation "What's It Gonna Be?")

We hope to see you there! It is always a very loose and fun and fresh time. There is a party afterwards. That's pretty chill.

Thursday, November 20th 2008 @ 8pm, Sound Fix Records 110 Bedford Ave., at N. 11th St. Brooklyn, NY 11211 FREE!

Previously on BB and BBtv:

* Gabe and Max answer Bing Boing readers.
* Gabe (of "Gabe and Max") takes on YouTubeTards
* Gabe and Max's Guide to Man Style
* Internet Cookies/Internet... Thing